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Androgogy or pedagogy
Nov 8 2006, 12:06 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 8 2006, 12:06 AM EST
I think the third model presented would be better described as an androgogical or possibly a humanist approach to facilitation/coaching, as it espouses the adult learning principles of self-actualisation, learners setting their own goals etc. Social software in general is learner/user driven, and therefore should be described as androgogy rather than pedagogy. (thought I would put a comment up as I believe not one comment was posted at LT2005 - we've already outdone them!) 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
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1. RE: Androgogy or pedagogy
Nov 12 2006, 7:53 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2006, 7:53 AM EST
OK - I'll bite ...

If we look at social software as one of the micro-granules of the Learning/Teaching domain, then yes, on the surface it is learner driven and it could be tagged as androgogical. But surely in the learning field we work in a holographic and interconnected universe. While the early adopters were undoubtedly the students, *we* are the drivers of educational use of social software ... and we are pedagogues. Hence, it is a pedagogical tool, is it not? ;-)

Of more concern than the ownership - or the label we give these tools - is the question of appropriate use. Many of the social networking tools I have seen are solutions in search of problems. Yes, they are shiny and seductive and oh so cool - but until we start applying rigour to our course design processes, the danger may be that these strategies will be used merely because they are there ...
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2. RE: Androgogy or pedagogy
Nov 20 2006, 5:40 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 20 2006, 5:40 AM EST
"OK - I'll bite ...

If we look at social software as one of the micro-granules of the Learning/Teaching domain, then yes, on the surface it is learner driven and it could be tagged as androgogical. But surely in the learning field we work in a holographic and interconnected universe. While the early adopters were undoubtedly the students, *we* are the drivers of educational use of social software ... and we are pedagogues. Hence, it is a pedagogical tool, is it not? ;-)

Of more concern than the ownership - or the label we give these tools - is the question of appropriate use. Many of the social networking tools I have seen are solutions in search of problems. Yes, they are shiny and seductive and oh so cool - but until we start applying rigour to our course design processes, the danger may be that these strategies will be used merely because they are there ..."
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As a librarian I do not see these in conflict. There are times I teach as 'sage on the stage' & times as 'guide on the side', & these tools might be used in any context, though there are natural social advantages with the tools themselves - assuming you have a social group to start with. It depends on your philospophical stance as to whether they are used in dynamics of goodness & niceness or evilness & rottenness.

An article on the Goggies that might be of interest to some is "From Androgogy to Heutagogy" at http://ultibase.rmit.edu.au/Articles/dec00/hase2.htm#heutagony

Yes, I agree with vyt that we are hearing a lot about social software & I can't tear my daughter away from "My Space". It has certainly found a place there, in a voluntary context. And, in many cases, I feel a tool has been invented & we are still brainstorming potential uses for it. I recently read a contrarian type article which suggested that people basically aren't particularly collaborative so don't expect too much, so I suspect it will be some time before these tools find accepted & useful roles - & who knows what else might come along as well...

I agree with vyt, there is a lot of tech stuff out there that is being tria
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3. RE: Androgogy or pedagogy
Apr 28 2009, 4:39 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 28 2009, 4:39 AM EDT
I think there is a place for Social Software in the andragogue's (learner or learning facilitator's) toolkit . Do you find this valuable?